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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.18 23:12:29 -
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Jev North wrote:Shortly after one of our former brothers in Pyre joined the Akagi Initiative, currently under contract with the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive, his former CEO Taisho Xun Yu of Sanxing [SANXI] attempted to exert diplomatic pressure on Akagi Initiative to fire said pilot, citing alleged earlier crimes against Sanxing security forces.
Considering this to be an intolerable breach of this pilot's honor and right to self-determination over the trivial matter of a small number of baseliner deaths, and preferring not to exert counter-pressure on respectable entities like I-RED or Akagi, we decided instead to reduce the credibility and potential impact of Sanxing sanctions by complete destruction of any and all of their in-space assets within our reach.
In all honesty, it just sounds like you wanted an excuse to pad the killboards with a relatively undefended Astrahaus because preying on sheep is easier as a starving wolf. Does I-RED always war-dec people who hurt their feelings or just humanitarian organizations?
Is it really worth defending the honor of a whining criminal who's incapable of claiming responsibility for his actions? Would you like the records proving him responsible for his "alleged" crimes? Would you really sit there and destroy an entire Citadel because somebody hurt your feewings? Really?
You want to know a response to diplomatic pressure you could have used instead of flinging ships at the problem? "No."
Don't hide this under some shame of honoring another pilot's dignity. It's just a thinly veneered attempt at rationalizing more generic Capsuleer bloodlust.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.18 23:30:23 -
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Jev North wrote:Are you speaking these accusations in any kind of official capacity for SFRIM?
You're avoiding the points I made with the hope that with either way I answer, you can either blow me off (if unofficial) or threaten me (official).
Could you imagine, for just a moment, the reason a man in a humanitarian organization would critique the corporation responsible for the destruction of another humanitarian organization?
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.18 23:40:46 -
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Julianni Avala wrote:It would be appreciated if I-RED was kept out of this accusation Mister Schmidt, as we are not aligned with the Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group, and were not in any way a part of their original war declaration. Their decision to go to war so was their own.
We will not speak on behalf of Akagi's decision for their actions, as they are employed by us through a contract and they have their own decisions that they make.
I-RED has it's own reasons for the war that have been communicated to the effected party itself and no outside parties, as it should be.
My apologies in that, then. There's a lot of smoke and mirrors up about the whole sort of thing, and I don't mean to implicate those who'd have their reasons - no matter how petty, honestly - to keep it in-shop. Regardless, though, it doesn't stop me from my judgments, which of I have many.
Hey Look, I'm Threatening wrote:Mr. Schmidt, your answer to Ms. North's question depends upon whether or not we give you the time of day, I humbly ask you answer it.
I'm glad you could humbly give me the time of day. How kind of you, really.
It's a public thread. That's my answer.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.18 23:53:17 -
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Alex Hinkelmann wrote:Charles Cambridge Schmidt wrote:My apologies in that, then. There's a lot of smoke and mirrors up about the whole sort of thing, and I don't mean to implicate those who'd have their reasons - no matter how petty, honestly - to keep it in-shop. Regardless, though, it doesn't stop me from my judgments, which of I have many. You are free to judge others on this public forum, I only ask you make educated judgements rather then assumptions. Ishukone-Raata is content to keep the matter between us and Sanxing as it should be. This will be our last communique on the matter at this time. Rikaato.
Just working off what was presented by the original poster.
Thanks for taking the time to respond in a productive manner, at any rate. It is appreciated, for however much it's worth from a GalNet stranger such as myself.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.19 07:52:57 -
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Alex Hinkelmann wrote:Lavius-haan, while you may have been informed on the matter it is clear you're missing key information. Ishukone-Raata was given an ultimatum to complete within a remarkably short time period, diplomacy was our strategy and still is. Other actors drew blades for their own purposes, we drew ours for our own.
Negligence is not an absolution of responsibility.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.20 23:41:48 -
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Kolodi Ramal wrote:For the record, Sanxing had no intention of using violence against Akagi/I-RED. Our "unacceptable ultimatum": dismiss the disputed individual from the shelter of Akagi/I-RED within seven days. Our measured and civilized idea of consequences: public release of the details of what the individual did and no possibility of positive relations with I-RED in the future. (By now people can piece together from this thread what was done and by whom anyway.)
Is no one going to mention this or is this too inconvenient to consider for all the warring done?
(Kolodi, you may as well do this anyway.)
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.21 00:08:09 -
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Kalaratiri wrote:Why should we have waited to see what Sanxing considered to be "appropriate" consequences after a threat was made?
If someone threatens unspecified revenge and you have the opportunity to remove the threat, why wouldn't you?
Now I'm wondering why the "we" you speak of would be worried about a humanitarian corporation. Oh no, watch out, a press release! Hard Knocks is doomed.
I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.21 20:14:45 -
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Syenna Celeste wrote:Ayallah wrote: Maybe I just imagine when people make threats they mean them.
You're the only person using the word eviction here. Does PL call it an Invasion every time they want a fight with another group?
Is this coming from the group that deployed a four (or was it five?) corporation war against a single target for the concept of a perceived threat under the rationale of "take no chances"? Or just you?
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Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
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Posted - 2017.02.21 20:38:11 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:We need no further justification.
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That is all the justification we need.
So it was done for honor of someone else, but not really, because you felt threatened, but also not really, again, because it really wasn't that bad and Sanxing should just look up and keep going, but not really, because you actually did it because you wanted to and don't need a reason?
EDIT -- Where's my thinking emoji?
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